What? No seriously, what?
May. 11th, 2008 05:02 am![[personal profile]](https://www.dreamwidth.org/img/silk/identity/user.png)
How is it logically possible to support or tolerate abortion but not be at least tolerant of the open source boob project? Don't get me wrong, its a pretty lame idea by a crew of apparently pretty lame guys. But what consenting adults choose to do with other consenting adults is not a matter that should be decided by majority consensus, no matter how overwhelming. I know this whole controversy has already come and gone, but I never really got to thinking about it in depth until recently. Instead, I had just soaked up all the PC reasoning as to why it was so offensive and should be shamed into non-existence. Now it occurs to me that this is just another instance of the more collectivist elements of society attempting to exerting normative control over individuals. It happened before with the origins of obscenity laws in the US, when feminists formed a coalition with rabid right wing reactionaries. Now its happening again with geeks trying to cop a feel.
This is the same idiot as last time. Somehow The Flouncer actually seems to be getting dumber. Its almost surprising. Like how he uses an essay about the 70s Englehart Cap run to back his claim that Captain America in WW2 would have been a xenophobic racist, just like all WW2 veterans. Yeah the mind it boggles...
Stupid work boredom. Must resist urge to check on idiots. Go back to book...
ETA: I'm probably giving him too much credit by saying he's getting dumber. I mean this is the guy who said men couldn't be raped unless drugged. And not counting anal or something. Because if you cum it doesn't count. Or something like that was his reasoning...
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Date: 2008-05-11 02:45 pm (UTC)If a woman chooses to walk around a con in a t-shirt that says "Meet me in room 302 to cop a feel" it would be a totaly different thing. If a fangirl wants to let fanboys grope them or have an orgy in their room, it is that woman's perogative. But when this same act moved into the public realm it changed to publically threatening to all women at that location. I would not feel safe at any convention where public dispays like this were taking place. I would not want my child who goes to cons with me to see this and make him think that it is okay to treat women this way.
What an idiot!
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Date: 2008-05-12 01:46 pm (UTC)Silly child, huh?
Date: 2008-05-12 12:40 pm (UTC)Some WW2 soldiers no doubt were xenophobic and racist. So it stands to reason it's possible Captain America might have been one of them. Given that his creators were Joe Simon and Jack Kirby, two people who didn't exhibit those traits themselves it would seem counterintuitive that their "Sentinel of Liberty" would have those traits, which many even in those days saw as counter to American values. A hateful revisionist Cap might be an interesting fictional departure, but it would hardly prove anything about actual WW2 veterans. It'd be good for those who hold generally negative views and are somewhat ignorant about actual history... but don't tell him that.
The way he phrased it his idiotic generalization, just one counterexample was sufficient to blow his "argument" out of the water. And yet he continues, just absolutely making a fool of himself now. It's embarrassing. I'm embarrassed by proxy.
He's so far gone up his own cakehole at this point he wouldn't understand it. So filled with righteous and misplaced rage is he, he's ready to burn himself down to prove us all wrong.
He doesn't even understand no one's attacking his version of Cap, just his ahistorical statement of "proof." And this using panels from a comic book to prove... what? That WW2 vets were racists or xenophobes?
Wow. That's a new low in rhetoric.
-Joel, I Against Comics
Re: Silly child, huh?
Date: 2008-05-13 04:55 pm (UTC)WW2soldiers no doubt were xenophobic and racist.There you go. That fact has nothing to do with time period and just human nature. Any time you have a body large enough, you will encounter these type of people, whether the year is 1920, 1945, or 2008.
Re: Silly child, huh?
Date: 2008-05-14 07:31 am (UTC)-Joel, IAC